@cappytan Your response about not respecting any of the Occupy movement is understandable given the bad press that it had for awhile. You should know that the Occupy movement did many things for a variety of opinions. I personally disagree with those who went about destroying properties and causing riots, many, if not most of the Occupy disagreed with that form of protest (the black bloc), unfortunately they got the most publicity.
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EXJWSOLIDARITY!!!!!
by Luther bertrand ingiven derek o'hares legal issues for his brave protests i have created an fb banner to show not only exjwsolidarity but also that we appreciate derek's protests.
if you have not viewed his protests go to the "derek ohare1" youtube channel.
here is the fb banner that was i created fix it to your own fb page and show support for derek and all strugglers!.
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EXJWSOLIDARITY!!!!!
by Luther bertrand ingiven derek o'hares legal issues for his brave protests i have created an fb banner to show not only exjwsolidarity but also that we appreciate derek's protests.
if you have not viewed his protests go to the "derek ohare1" youtube channel.
here is the fb banner that was i created fix it to your own fb page and show support for derek and all strugglers!.
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Luther bertrand
@simon Just three questions:
1. What exactly do you think Civil Disobedience is and have you ever read any books on the subject, if so which ones?
2. Could you site a historic example where a protest of any kind, whether construed as Civil Disobedience or not, did not cause people to feel uncomfortable?
3. Can you show me an example of any scholar that has studied the subject of activism who disagree's with the statement that fundamental to the purpose of protest is to evoke a response on the part of the demographic to whom you are trying to communicate a message?
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EXJWSOLIDARITY!!!!!
by Luther bertrand ingiven derek o'hares legal issues for his brave protests i have created an fb banner to show not only exjwsolidarity but also that we appreciate derek's protests.
if you have not viewed his protests go to the "derek ohare1" youtube channel.
here is the fb banner that was i created fix it to your own fb page and show support for derek and all strugglers!.
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Luther bertrand
@cappytan Could you elaborate on your opinion that there is a credibility problem with regard to my having been an organizer of Occupy UC and Occupy Education? -
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EXJWSOLIDARITY!!!!!
by Luther bertrand ingiven derek o'hares legal issues for his brave protests i have created an fb banner to show not only exjwsolidarity but also that we appreciate derek's protests.
if you have not viewed his protests go to the "derek ohare1" youtube channel.
here is the fb banner that was i created fix it to your own fb page and show support for derek and all strugglers!.
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Luther bertrand
For those of you who wish to support Derek. Here is an alternative version.
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EXJWSOLIDARITY!!!!!
by Luther bertrand ingiven derek o'hares legal issues for his brave protests i have created an fb banner to show not only exjwsolidarity but also that we appreciate derek's protests.
if you have not viewed his protests go to the "derek ohare1" youtube channel.
here is the fb banner that was i created fix it to your own fb page and show support for derek and all strugglers!.
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Luther bertrand
Simon! Thank you for responding, you bring up some very interesting points. Going all the way back even before Martin Luther King, a similar debate has existed. The debate focuses on what is the relationship between peaceful protest and other types of activism. The whole point of activism is to evoke a response, however, different people have different methods for doing this. As for breaking the law, do you feel Rosa Parks should not have sat at the front of the bus or do you feel that Ghandi should not have broken the law of British rule by making his own salt? Interesting that you bring up pepperspraying as I was one of the organizers at Occupy UC and Occupy Education, so I suppose your comment struck a cord with me. In my opinion, Laws are meant to serve the people and not the other way around. Therefore, if I or anyone else feels the need to breach a city ordinance in order to raise awareness about the problem of pedophila than hats off to them of course this is with the caveat of not going beyond principles of Civil Disobedience. As far as, the JW narrative that you rightfully bring up, I agree that it does, IN SOME PEOPLES MINDS. However, I know for a fact that some people have been reached by his protests. With regard to activism, I am sympathetic to the Weberian framework of Structural Functionalism where we all are like puzzle pieces that fit together and while some of the pieces might have advantages over other pieces the movement would be incomplete and partially impotent without each activist putting in the talents and perspective that the have. Thanks for openly sharing our opinion with me!
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The New Word for the Day: Apostagasm
by Luther bertrand inapostagasm (noun): the excited reaction to any form of protest where awareness of watchtower abuses is increased in such a way that it creates an emotional response associated with increased heartbeat, increased mental acuity, and urges to do your own acts of apostasy and actions where watchtower abuses are given more visibility.. example1: reading ray franzs' book:"crisis of conscience" gave me an apostagasm.. post your own sentence using the word apostagasm.
tell us about a time when you had one!
share and share alike!.
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Luther bertrand
Apostagasm (noun): the excited reaction to any form of protest where awareness of watchtower abuses is increased in such a way that it creates an emotional response associated with increased heartbeat, increased mental acuity, and urges to do your own acts of apostasy and actions where watchtower abuses are given more visibility.
Example1: Reading Ray Franzs' book:"Crisis of Conscience" gave me an Apostagasm.
Post your own sentence using the word Apostagasm. Tell us about a time when you had one! Share and Share alike!
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EXJWSOLIDARITY!!!!!
by Luther bertrand ingiven derek o'hares legal issues for his brave protests i have created an fb banner to show not only exjwsolidarity but also that we appreciate derek's protests.
if you have not viewed his protests go to the "derek ohare1" youtube channel.
here is the fb banner that was i created fix it to your own fb page and show support for derek and all strugglers!.
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Luther bertrand
Hello, All! Given Derek O'hares legal issues for his brave protests I have created an FB Banner to show not only exjwsolidarity but also that we appreciate Derek's protests. If you have not viewed his protests GO to the "Derek Ohare1" youtube channel. Here is the FB banner that was I created FIX IT to your own fb page and show support for derek and all strugglers!. If Derek gets thrown in jail, a thousand of us will take his place!
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Witness Punk and Metal Band Names
by Luther bertrand inhere is what i would name my band(s) let see if you can list some funny ones as well.
here is my list:.
local needs.
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Luther bertrand
Diogenesister sounds like a good idea lets do it. I didnt realize how much fun this thread would be when I started it. Full disclosure, Local Needs was an actual JW-ish band a friend of mine started way back in high school. I always got a kick out of the name of that band.
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EXJW's in Mensa?
by Luther bertrand inany exjw's or faders out there in mensa?
any online groups for this niche?
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Luther bertrand
JW_Researcher thanks for your "on topic" response. I am guessing that there are not EXJW Mensa SIGS?
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Witness Punk and Metal Band Names
by Luther bertrand inhere is what i would name my band(s) let see if you can list some funny ones as well.
here is my list:.
local needs.
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Luther bertrand
these are getting good. Have to say the one that made me the laugh the most was Greenless and the nutsacks!